{"id":1839,"date":"2013-03-01T08:00:40","date_gmt":"2013-03-01T00:00:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.jeffangiegoh.com\/?p=1839"},"modified":"2022-04-19T20:12:25","modified_gmt":"2022-04-19T12:12:25","slug":"75-implications-of-vatican-ii-on-the-participation-of-the-laity-in-the-church1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.jeffangiegoh.com\/?p=1839","title":{"rendered":"75. Implications of Vatican II on the Participation of the Laity in the Church*"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"color: #008080;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">&#8220;<\/span><strong>But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God\u2019s own people, in order that you may proclaim the mighty acts of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light<\/strong><span style=\"color: #000000;\">&#8220;<\/span><\/span>. [<span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">1 Peter 2:9<\/span>]<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jeffangiegoh.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/preV2church.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-1849\" title=\"preV2church\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jeffangiegoh.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/preV2church-234x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"291\" height=\"373\" \/>\u00a0\u00a0<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jeffangiegoh.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/V2Church.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-1851\" title=\"V2Church\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jeffangiegoh.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/V2Church-300x205.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"566\" height=\"386\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">[L]\u00a0<strong>The pre-Vatican II Church as a pyramidal structure.<\/strong>\u00a0 [R]\u00a0<strong>The revolutionary vision of Vatican II on the Church.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">On 4 February 2013, at the request of Fr Tony Neelankavil, Dean of Studies at the Marymatha [Mother Mary] Major Seminary in Trichu, Kerela, India, we joined two others, Professor Joris Geldhof from Leuven, Belgium, and Professor Paul Pullikan from the seminary, in presenting papers to faculties, students and invited guests. The Faculty of Theology at the seminary is associated with the Catholic University at Leuven, Belgium and there are lay people doing serious theology degree courses there.\u00a0 Apart from anything else, visits to places like this always make us feel ashamed that back home, our seminary steadfastly imposes a complete bar to lay persons and religious sisters from taking theology classes.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">On this topic assigned to us, we did a four-point reflection.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">We began with an opening thought on the 3 terms: Church, laity, and Vatican II. What is \u201cChurch\u201d? Who are the \u201cLaity\u201d? These are matters for studies in Ecclesiology. Did the Second Vatican Council [1962-65] say something revolutionary about the role of the laity? To appreciate what revolutionary thinking, if any, came out from Vatican II, we must first turn to see the reality <em>before<\/em> the Council.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>1. What was it like <em>before<\/em> Vatican II?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">In this ASIPA pictorial presentation of the vision before the Second Vatican Council, the Church was seen as a pyramidal structure, with the clergy occupying the apex of the pyramid and the laity filling up the huge space at the bottom.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The dividing line between the top and the bottom cannot be clearer. It is like a demarcation between the holy and the profane, the religious and the secular, the power of the cloth hovering over the laity and bending them low. Put simply, the clergy were holy, the laity were not.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Divine grace, gifts and blessings came directly from \u201cbeyond the clouds\u201d to the clergy, even flooding them with great, overflowing abundance of holy divine stuff. The laity, on the other hand, must humbly receive God\u2019s grace and blessings through the intermediary of the clergy. This vision of church allows for divine grace and blessings to percolate through the clergy to the laity only in dribs and drabs! The masses of poor, ignorant laity would be quite lost without the clergy, their shepherds, and their search for salvation quite untenable without the latter. The message is outlandish, but precise: without the priests, there would be no church. However, all would be well for the laity if they were docile and obedient towards their \u201csacred\u201d pastors. The laity, to be sure, were secular, and nothing like \u201csacred\u201d. In sum, the role of the laity in the pre-Vatican II Church was to \u201cpray, pay, and obey\u201d.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>But what is \u201c<em>Church<\/em>\u201d?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Recall that we can speak of the Christian Church, <em>because<\/em> there is first the Christ. For the same reason, we can speak of the Eucharist, and have this feast of the Lord\u2019s Supper to celebrate, <em>because<\/em> Someone died for us on the cross. In a very real sense, we cannot do Ecclesiology without Christology. Surely, if we want to reflect on the Church, we had better give due respect to the centrality of Christ before we insist on the importance and indispensability of the priests.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">To forget any of that is to have no \u201ctheological legs\u201d to stand on in our theologising. \u00a0So next, we turn to the Council to see how it theologized.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>2. What did Vatican II teach about the role of the laity?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jeffangiegoh.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/Vatican-II-procession.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1853\" title=\"Vatican II procession\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jeffangiegoh.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/Vatican-II-procession.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"262\" height=\"177\" \/><\/a> <span style=\"color: #008080;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Vatican II procession<\/span>\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.jeffangiegoh.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/vat2open.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-1840\" title=\"vat2open\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jeffangiegoh.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/vat2open-300x180.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"180\" \/><\/a> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">The opening of Vatican II.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">This is a real time photograph of the hour-long procession of bishops and cardinals into St Peter\u2019s Basilica for the opening session of the Second Vatican Council on 11 October, 1962.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Could anything dramatic or revolutionary come from a gathering of seemingly traditional, conservative, elderly bishops that could change the Church in any way? Did \u00a0the Council fathers remember Christ in their theologising? What dramatic rethinking and reshaping of <em>the role of the\u00a0laity<\/em> in the life and mission of the Church could possibly emerge from a gathering such as this?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Yes, inspired by the Holy Spirit, dramatic and revolutionary theologizing did emerge from the Council. We highlight three elements Vatican II said in its rethinking of the role of the laity.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">i. <em>Of being called to holiness<\/em><\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The universal call to holiness is <em>rooted in <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">baptism<\/span><\/em>.<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">We are <em>Church<\/em> on account of baptism which converts us into the People of God.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Baptism is the call to live holy lives.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Our baptismal calling is a universal Christian vocation to the sacred that precedes all other vocations.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Both Marriage and Orders are rooted in Baptism.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">So we lament the excessive attention on Orders, but not enough attention on Baptism.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Whenever theology lacks breadth and depth on Baptism, authenticity of our Christian living suffers.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Ch.2 of <em>Lumen Gentium<\/em> on the People of God, important as it is in its insertion <em>before<\/em> the hierarchy, is not the most important in the document.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The most important point in <em>Lumen Gentium<\/em> is its <em><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Christological focus<\/span><\/em>.<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">It kicks off with a clear profession of Christ as &#8220;the light of humanity.\u201d (The Council Fathers did remember Christ!)<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">It then proceeds without hesitation to speak of \u201cThe Mystery of the Church\u201d. (This is great, for the document from the outset\u00a0steered clear of launching off with the church as institution and the indispensability of the hierarchy.)<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">It proclaims: \u201c<em>the Church, in Christ, is in the nature of a sacrament \u2013 a sign and instrument, that is, of communion with God and of unity among all men<\/em>.\u201d<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">To ignore this \u201cmystery\u201d dimension of the Church is to reduce it to its mere sociological dimension, ignoring the deeper implications of its baptismal root and what God has done for us in Jesus Christ.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">ii. <em>Of being gifted with the Spirit<\/em><\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">From common rootedness in baptism, the\u00a0<em>Church<\/em> is one, even though marked from the beginning by great diversity on account of a variety of God\u2019s gifts and a diversity of recipients [1 Cor 12].<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Gifts come from the Holy Spirit, not from some intermediary human agency. When St Paul wrote about the diversity of gifts in the Body of Christ that came from the same Spirit, and the diversity of ministries from the same Lord, he stressed the equal dignity of all and the equality between all in the faith community. Any theology from any quarters that purports to draw a hierarchy of importance of personalities in the Church is not from the Spirit but from human hubris.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Then, the fact of the universal gifts of the Holy Spirit demands on all in the Body of Christ to expend energy for Church-growth.<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Clearly, it is baptism, <em>not<\/em> priestly ordination, that forms the basis for all mission and ministry.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The mission of every baptized person is to be a sacrament of God\u2019s love in a world of strife, violence and inequity.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Mission, therefore, is the work of an adult church.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">In an adult church, neither is \u201cworldly mission\u201d exclusive to lay people, nor is \u201cchurch business\u201d exclusive to the clergy.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">There is an overlap. What is required is the combined gifts and collaboration of all in the Church &#8211; the laity, \u00a0the clergy, and the religious.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">iii. <em>Of being engaged in the life and mission of the Church<\/em><\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">In view of baptism, the source of our holiness is Christ, who sanctifies us &#8211; <em>all\u00a0of us<\/em>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The laity are an essential component of the \u201cPeople of God\u201d, graced and sanctified by Christ, and share in Christ\u2019s mission as priest, prophet, and king.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The Council\u2019s vision on the role of the laity may therefore be seen in three steps:<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The laity is not passive, as the apostolate belongs to them as much as to the ordained;<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">In view of their stations in life, the lay persons are to engage in Kingdom-advancement in temporal affairs;<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">In view of their membership in the Body of Christ and the People of God, they need also to participate actively in the inner affairs of the Church.<a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Admin\/My%20Documents\/From%20Our%20Perspective%202013\/75.%20Implications%20of%20Vatican%20II%20on%20the%20Participation%20of%20the%20Laity%20in%20the%20Church.doc#_ftn1\">[1]<\/a><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">In sum, then, two points deserve to be stressed:<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Avoid saying the laity\u2019s role is \u201cprincipally\u201d or \u201cprimarily\u201d secular. Before anyone has any \u201cvocation\u201d, each has a <strong><em>Christian<\/em><\/strong><em> <strong>vocation<\/strong><\/em> \u2013 a vocation to the sacred.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The laity\u2019s role, according to the Council, has two foci:<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ol>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">involvement in the world and its transformation; and<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">involvement in the Church and its growth.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">It remains to be said, and ought to be repeatedly said, that the duty is on the bishops and the priests who are in charge of church-structures and finances to accord a meaningful collaborative role to the laity.<a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:\/Documents%20and%20Settings\/Admin\/My%20Documents\/From%20Our%20Perspective%202013\/75.%20Implications%20of%20Vatican%20II%20on%20the%20Participation%20of%20the%20Laity%20in%20the%20Church.doc#_ftn2\">[2]<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">In this picture, the Church is neither an institution nor a hierarchical pyramid. It is a living mystery, the Body of Christ, the People of God. \u00a0This pictorial re-presentation of the Vatican II Church highlights many positive elements of a revolutionary vision where:<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">the faithful are a pilgrim people<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">journeying, <em><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">together<\/span><\/em>, to the same goal<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">led by Christ, the Way<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">nourished by Word and Sacraments<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">bringing gospel values to all sectors of society in their common mission <em>ad intra<\/em> and <em>ad extra<\/em>.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">From the hillside to the prairies,<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">the People of God build schools and factories, churches and homes, offices and playgrounds;<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">where others burn and destroy, they would build and rebuild;<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">where there is strife and violence, they seek to make peace and reconcile.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>3. What do we see today?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">What is your experience of the ecclesial reality in this golden jubilee year of the opening of the Second Vatican Council?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>i. Many positive signs<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">A multitude of ministries has flourished in the church: at Mass, children\u2019s ministries, catechetical and faith formation, youth ministry, various lay organizations.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">There is also a multitude of recognisable, church-related, <em>Christian<\/em> organisations serving the world in myriad fields.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Furthermore, the laity are also active in the world in activities that contribute to the welfare of society but may not be immediately recognisable as \u201choly\u201d church-related work.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">In some countries in the West, there are more qualified theologians amongst the laity than the clergy. There are many \u201clay\u201d theologians too in the third world.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">It is evident that the laity are no longer \u201cpassive\u201d, but active participants in kingly, priestly and prophetic ministries in Church and world.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>ii.<\/strong><strong> Serious Negative Experiences<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The understanding of Baptism in its depth and breadth suffers from a gross <em>imbalance<\/em> compared to Orders.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The laity are also kept out of meaningful participation in decision-making\u00a0 in governance [their role in canon law being <em>consultative only<\/em>] and in matters of faith [cp. <em>sensus fidelium<\/em>?]<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">There is serious ambiguity in official documents: repeated mention of \u201csacred pastors\u201d, but where are the \u201csacred laity\u201d?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u201c<em>Spiritual gangsterism<\/em>\u201d, to borrow an expression from Pastor Ignotus, columnist of the London-based Tablet magazine, is rife amongst the clergy in their dealings with the rest of the people of God who do not have the power and privileges that come with ordination in clergy-promulgated church-law.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Often, it is sad to witness a reversal to pre-Vatican II <em>mentality<\/em> in the clerical mind-set:<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The colossal clerical sex scandal is an obstinately lingering case in point;<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">There is a serious, obstinate barricade against the basic principles of \u201ctransparency\u201d and \u201caccountability\u201d;<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">There is the damning clericalist pronouncement: \u201cWe are the ones to decide!\u201d<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Often, actions do not match words:-<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u201cEqual dignity?\u201d But women faithful suffer from ministry-exclusion and class-reduction;<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Even religious sisters are not allowed to study theology at our local seminary.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">More often than we can possibly tolerate, there is a religious \u201c<em>infantilization<\/em>\u201d of educated adults.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The laity are kept out of holy spaces through control of the liturgy and ministries. Discrimination against women has gone to the extreme in places. In our local church, women (other than religious sisters) are barred from distributing communion during Mass &#8211; the symbol of prejudice against women from the &#8220;official&#8221; church cannot get any more blatant than that!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>4. What suggestions for change can we offer?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Pope Benedict in recent years has repeatedly emphasized\u00a0 that the laity are not called to participate in the mission and ministry of the priests and to merely collaborate with the latter. The laity have been equally called to the apostolate, to the mission and life of the Church. They are co-workers and co-participants with the priests, who are called to collaborate with each other in the life and mission <em>of the Church<\/em>. Those are, and remain, beautiful words very much in line with the teaching of Vatican II.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Our problem is, there is a serious gap, a disproportion, between \u201cshow\u201d and \u201ctell\u201d. The laity are forever saying to the official institutional side of the Church [<em>not <\/em>the full Church of People of God, but the official, clerical, managerial side only], please don\u2019t \u201ctell\u201d us, \u201cshow\u201d us!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Do we need a change of structures for the Church to be truly <em>Church<\/em>? Do we need a serious change of mentality?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">If you were asked to name three goals you <em><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">hope to see<\/span><\/em> in a renewed church, what would they be?<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">A greatly reduced clergy-laity divide?<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">An empowered laity [male and female]?<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">An active promotion of co-responsibility of clergy and laity for the life and mission of the Church?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">And, if you were asked to name three things we <em><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">need to see<\/span> <\/em>in a healthy, functioning Body of Christ and People of God, what would you say?<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">A replacement of a legal model of the Church by a <em>communion<\/em> model?<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Genuine dialogue and fellowship?<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">A real respect for the dignity of women?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">In a conversation we had with Mgsr. S. Jayanathan, the Vicar General of Bangalore, India at a recent international conference on \u201cRevisiting Vatican II: Fifty Years of Renewal\u201d, he made a triple-proposal in response to our question concerning suggestions for change in the Church in relation to the role of the laity:<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Clear pastoral vision (resulting from joint deliberation and consultation);<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Collective decision-making;<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Collaborative implementation.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Do you see positive signs of a pilgrim People at work in this triple-C schema?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Notes<\/span>:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">* This post is transcribed from the presentation slides. For the printed article, please search in the category \u201cSlightly More Theological\u201d of this same webpage.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">[1] See Vatican II documents, <em>Dogmatic Constitution on the Church<\/em> (<em>Lumen Gentium<\/em>),31; <em>Decree on the Apostolate of the Lay People<\/em> (<em>Apostolicam Autuositatem<\/em>),2.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">[2] See Vatican II document, <em>Decree on the Pastoral Office of Bishops in the Church <\/em><em>(<em>Christus Dominus<\/em>), 16.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Copyright \u00a9 Dr. Jeffrey &amp; Angie Goh, March 2013. All rights reserved.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">You are most welcome to respond to this post. 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